Session Start: Sun Aug 26 00:00:00 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[11:44]<+camerongray> Hey Nat
[11:46]<+camerongray> How is it possible for my PC to get 90fps in Minecraft on full settings with several application and 8 Prime 95 threads!
[11:51]<Nat> XD
[11:53]<+camerongray> Any ideas of a program to write in Java
[11:53]<+camerongray> Nothing fancy, just to get me used to java since I've not used it in a while
[11:53]<+camerongray> Ideally multithreadable and console based
[11:54]<+camerongray> Doesn't really need to be useful for anything :P]
[11:57]<+camerongray> nvm, had an idea
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> cam: what was your idea
[12:54]<+camerongray> calculate pi
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[12:55]<+camerongray> Although now I'm trying to find out the performance difference between positions of code in an if...else statement
[12:55]<+camerongray> i.e. if the original condition is false is it slower than if the original is true
[12:56]<+camerongray> Interestingly in java there is no real difference
[12:56]<+camerongray> In C# there is a notable difference
[13:04]<@BC_Programming> just tested... I don't get any difference...
[13:06]<+camerongray> in C#?
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> yes
[13:07]<+camerongray> hmm, how many times are you looping?
[13:07]<@BC_Programming> 5000 times, done 50 times and the average calculated
[13:08]<+camerongray> ahh
[13:08]<+camerongray> Hmm, I get a few hundred ms here
[13:08]<+camerongray> Looping a lot of times though :P
[13:08]<@Mulreay> I get something completely different..
[13:08]<+camerongray> lol
[13:08]<+camerongray> 1000000000000 times here!
[13:08]<+camerongray> grr
[13:09]<@Mulreay> It says 'What are you doing Graham? Go back to playing games ffs'
[13:09]<+camerongray> lol
[13:09]<@BC_Programming> running it again
[13:09]<+camerongray> My computer is used to being geeky :P
[13:09]<+camerongray> I only have tekkit installed and even then rarely use it
[13:11]<@BC_Programming> well this takes a long time. perhaps should not have used Debug.Print for every iteration
[13:11]<+camerongray> lol
[13:12]<@Mulreay> eaugh people and the 'fake moon landings' do my head
[13:12]<@Mulreay> in
[13:12]<+camerongray> same
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> now it runs too fast
[13:12]<@Mulreay> I mean some people have found some things that are dodgy like here http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm but I feel that is a one off
[13:12]<+camerongray> lol
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> OK each test was 500,000 loops
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> and the tests were run 500 times each
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> averages were
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> Results:
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> TruePath average:0.0034880074157043
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> FalsePath average:0.0034136124873157
[13:14]<+camerongray> What unit is that?
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> seconds
[13:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[13:15]<+camerongray> hmm, small difference
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> oh wait
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> the two paths weren't equal
[13:16]<@BC_Programming> still a difference after fixed
[13:16]<@BC_Programming> TruePath average:0.00384382252871303
[13:16]<@BC_Programming> FalsePath average:0.00385816938845018
[13:16]<+camerongray> yeah
[13:16]<+camerongray> So it is quicker if true but not by much
[13:16]<+camerongray> Although could be substantial in big systems
[13:22]<@Mulreay> Just lost a 20 minute video when transferring it.. awesome
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> transferring it where
[13:23]<@Mulreay> from one computer to another.. XP crashed and now the file is completely fragemented and unusable
[13:24]<@Mulreay> Now windows has crashed as well
[13:24]<@Mulreay> sweet
[13:24]<@Mulreay> 7
[13:24]<@Mulreay> that is
[13:25]<@BC_Programming> so what are you using to be on mIRC then?
[13:25]<@Mulreay> Vista
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[13:25]<@BC_Programming> or not
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[13:25]<+camerongray> lol - he is using vista :P
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[13:26]<+camerongray> wb
[13:26]<@BC_Programming> Why is that funny?
[13:26]<+FusRoDah> My mistake
[13:26]<+FusRoDah> thx
[13:26]<+camerongray> Because vista is well vista :P
[13:26]<+FusRoDah> It was XP that caused the issue
[13:26]<+camerongray> ahh
[13:27]<+FusRoDah> I've managed to save 11 minutes of it
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> Vista is the only OS that seems to be working for him... Never understood the Vista hate. Actually a lot of the people that hate on Vista have never even used it, they usually skipped right to 7 and base their opinions on "well my cousins dogs previous owner's grandmother had a bad experience" type thing
[13:27]<+camerongray> lol - I got vista
[13:27]<+FusRoDah> I like Vista.. used it for like 4yrs or something
[13:28]<+camerongray> It was okay but I found it quite buggy
[13:28]<+camerongray> Prefer 7
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> which raises the next point
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> people are quick to say "Vista was buggy"
[13:28]<@BC_Programming> if that is the case, they ought to be able to cite at least one bug that was rather major from memory
[13:29]<+camerongray> lol, I just wasn't a huge fan
[13:29]<+camerongray> But then again, my PC was really old at that point
[13:29]<+FusRoDah> Just got back another 7mins so I've lost about 4 minutes so the video will have to be edited to make it make sense
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> How do you lose only parts of a video :/ aren't they usually one file
[13:29]<+FusRoDah> Good old fraps breaking videos up into blocks
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> ahhh
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> new version allegedly allows you to make it record to a single file
[13:30]<+FusRoDah> Glad it didn't on this occasion
[13:31]<@BC_Programming> the recording I made of that Vechs map was 71GB overall lol
[13:32]<+FusRoDah> This was the second transfer I had done.. the first failed because the XP machine ran out of memory to duplicate in my network places folder (copied rather than cut) so I deleted that off the laptop and tried again. Then XP crashed half way through but luckily I still had the first attempt in the win7 recycle bin so just restored it.. just missing the middle that was lost in the failed transfer
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> reminds me I ought to render and upload part 2
[13:39]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming, I used vista for a few years before I got windows 7... windows 7 did run faster, and used less memory, but for me was just as stable/unstable.
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> uhhh... Camerongray
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> just tested the same idea in Java, it gives much the same result
[13:50]<+camerongray> hmm, strange
[13:50]<@BC_Programming> though it seems to lean towards the false path
[13:51]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:51]<+camerongray> Not sure, working on calculating pi now
[13:51]<+camerongray> hey Tux2
[13:51]<Tux2> hey camerongray
[13:51]<+camerongray> I love the way my university is fully linux
[13:52]<+camerongray> Well, in the informatics school anyaway
[13:52]<+camerongray> anyway*
[14:00]<+FusRoDah> hey Tux2`
[14:00]<+FusRoDah> Tux2 even
[14:00]<Tux2> lol
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> I could say quite a lot about that camerongray but I will restrain myself
[14:00] * Tux2 needs to go, see you guys later
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> later tux
[14:00]<+camerongray> cya
[14:00]<+camerongray> lol, please say BC :P
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> get around to looking at my theme stuff one day tux :P
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[14:01]<Tux2> Of course BC_Programming! I've looked over most of it, just haven't put it all together yet.
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> cool
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> just know you're busy
[14:02]<Tux2> Yup, got a contract with Enjin so I've been working a lot on that project.
[14:02]<+camerongray> BC_Programming, What did you refrain from saying?
[14:03]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: give me a bit, something else to do first
[14:03]<+camerongray> cool
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> OK
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> well anyway
[14:09]<+camerongray> *Gets popcorn*
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> as you know I've no problem with Linux or FOSS or any of that, in principle, it's fine and has a good motive
[14:09]<@BC_Programming> but what I don't like is when other concerns are pushed to the side- such as how well something works- and a FOSS alternative is chosen simply because of the philosophy behind it
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> Now, that said, those adopting it that find it slightly less good than they would like, or that doesn't quite meet their needs could easily change it... heck, you know what would actually be awesome
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> if universities and whatnot actually had their <own> distributions with student pushed changes
[14:10]<+camerongray> They do :D
[14:10]<@BC_Programming> well there you go
[14:10]<+camerongray> Based on scientific linux but has been customized
[14:11]<+camerongray> It's only used in the informatics school though, all the others use Windows
[14:12]<+camerongray> They have some macs too
[14:12]<+camerongray> I'll be using mine for stuff
[14:13]<+camerongray> I think they just want a *NIX opearating system, not nesessarily the fact that it's free
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> any school that only uses a single OS is problematic... And the fact is that most places seem to use Windows which is itself a problem, because obviously Windows is only really one interpretation of a good OS
[14:13]<+camerongray> The machines are Dell Optiplex 990s, may have Windows 7 Pro licences
[14:13]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: they should use FreeBSD
[14:13]<+camerongray> lol - We use that on servers at work
[14:13]<+camerongray> They are mainly used for Java and haskell
[14:14]<+camerongray> Not sure what they use on their supercomputers
[14:14]<+camerongray> well, supercomputer*
[14:21]<+camerongray> wow, they use Bulldozer CPUs!
[14:21]<+camerongray> They obviously don't suck as many made out!
[14:23]<+camerongray> Wow, this thing is powerful!
[14:23]<+camerongray> 2816 nodes each with 2x 16 core opteron!
[14:23]<+camerongray> 90Tb RAM
[14:24]<+camerongray> 1PB RAID
[14:24]<+camerongray> gr
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:36]<@Mulreay> This build is starting to get a little silly in size
[14:53]<@BC_Programming> I wonder if it would be uncool if I did boring stuff in the map off-camera
[14:54]<@Mulreay> No it's cool, that's what I do.. wht bore people
[14:54]<@Mulreay> why*
[14:54]<@BC_Programming> I mean like organize supplies and stuff
[14:54]<@Mulreay> Yeah
[14:55]<@BC_Programming> well I have at least another 3 30 minute episodes from the recording I already made
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> bloody mapmaker put silverfish blocks all over the place
[14:59]<@BC_Programming> I may have suggested he do something inappropriate in the next video after several encounters with silverfish as a result
[15:10]<@Mulreay> lol
[15:27]<Craig> Boo!
[15:27]<@BC_Programming> hi Craig
[15:27]<Craig> How goes it?
[15:27]<@BC_Programming> good. Yourself?
[15:32]<+camerongray> hey Craig
[15:33]<Craig> Doing great, having V's parents over. :)
[15:42]<@Mulreay> Parts 3, 3.5 and 4 going up tonight
[15:42]<@Mulreay> Hey Craig
[15:42]<Craig> Hey Mulreay
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[16:02]<@Mulreay> Starting to get to grips with vegas pro.. I have a custom template for rendering that I made that seems to work
[16:12]<@BC_Programming> hmm well that was disturbing
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> You know when you overhear a conversation by accident
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> and wish you hadn't
[16:13]<@Mulreay> ahhh
[16:13]<@Mulreay> Been thyere
[16:13]<@Mulreay> there*
[16:13]<Nat> you know what's annoying, X-Chat gives everyone who regulars glitchpc other than Tux2 the same color
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[16:14]<@BC_Programming> heh
[16:14]<@Mulreay> heh
[16:15]<@BC_Programming> actually what happened I thought a bunch of peeps were voiced anyway
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[16:17]<@BC_Programming> there now we have a distinct line between the Bourgeoisie and the proletariat
[16:17]<@BC_Programming> I tried to voice sonic but my client just beeped at me
[16:17]<@Mulreay> Would be surprised if that stands without using ChanbotV... tried it myself
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> it won't stay no
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> ideally would be reg'd with chanserv
[16:18]<@Mulreay> yeah
[16:18]<@Mulreay> More to do with hostmarks and what not
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[16:19]<@Mulreay> That would work
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> now the question
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> do we voice sonic?
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I vote why not
[16:20]<@Mulreay> hahahahahahahah good one
[16:20]<@Mulreay> oh ok
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[16:20]<@Mulreay> lol
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> what happens if I voice myself
[16:21]<@Mulreay> nothing
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[16:21]<@BC_Programming> lol
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> well that was completely pointless
[16:21]<@Mulreay> I did say :p
[16:21]<@BC_Programming> then again weren't they all
[16:21]<@Mulreay> You couldn't voice me either
[16:22]<@BC_Programming> well we get the mode but it isn't reflected anywhere
[16:23]<@Mulreay> I think a voice is something... if some tool turns up it's someone that it respected in a chatroom
[16:23]<@BC_Programming> only does something in moderated channels
[16:23]<@BC_Programming> I mean functionally anyway
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> oh wow
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> my bc-programming webmaster account is rather full of spam
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> I could be eligible to receive 64% off monasteries
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> didn't know they were even on sale
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> and now they are making offers to increase the size of my roosters! Why would I want to do that anyway? It's the hens you eat
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